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Russian scholar predicts fall of United States in 2010

Russian professor states that a future civil war will lead to separation of the U.S.

Ivana Cheong


Igor Panarin, a political science expert from Russia, has predicted the disintegration of the United States into six pieces that will then join sides with other world powers.

According to the Wall Street Journal, Professor Panarin has had his theory for a decade, but has not gotten much academic recognition until now. It’s not because he does not like America, Panarin insists; rather, he bases his prediction on the recent political and economic state tin which the U.S. currently finds itself.

“There’s a 55-45% chance right now that disintegration will occur,” he says. He believes that mass immigration, moral decline, tremendous economic downfall would lead to a civil war next fall and collapse of the dollar. The United States will then fall into six groups around June or July 2010:

“The Californian Republic” would be a part of China or Chinese influence; the Northern states would form what he calls “The Central North American Republic” and would fall under Canada; “The Texas Republic” would fall under Mexico or Mexican influence; “Atlantic America,” including Washington, D.C., may align with the European Union; Hawaii would go towards either Japan or China; and Alaska would fall naturally with Russia.

“It would be reasonable for Russia to lay claim to Alaska; it was part of the Russian Empire for a long time,” says Panarin.

Even with the hope of President-elect Barack Obama fixing the economy, Panarin sticks by his theory, saying that “when spring comes, it will be clear that there are no miracles.”

Russia too would be affected negatively if the disintegration of the United States were to happen. It would gain more global power, Panarin beliefs, but its economy would suffer since the country is largely dependent on the dollar and trade with the U.S..

A U.S.-Russia relations expert, Panarin is a former KGB analyst who is now a dean of the academy for future diplomats at the Russian Foreign Ministry. He is also a university professor and a published author.

Since first presentation of the theory, the amount of attention and recognition has changed tremendously, WSJ wrote. In addition to scholarly discussions by local experts, Panarin has also gotten more state coverage, leading him to believe that people are taking his theory more seriously.

However, some experts in Russia believe otherwise. Sergei Rogov, director of the Institute of US and Canadian Studies thinks that Panarin’s theories don’t hold water, saying, “Crazy ideas are not usually discussed by serious people.”

Vladimir Pozner, a prominent Russian TV journalist agrees: the theory “reflects a very pronounced degree of anti-Americanism in Russia today. It’s much stronger than it was in the Soviet Union.”

Asked about the matter in a news conference, White House spokesperson Dana Perino said, “I’ll have to decline to comment.”

Still, Panarin sticks by his beliefs, despite some of the skepticism out there. He cites Emmanuel Todd, a political scientist from France who predicted the fall of the Soviet Union 15 years beforehand. Panarin said, “When he forecast the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1976, people laughed at him.”

Our Take:

The thought seems so apocalyptic, partly because the United States is practically the hegemon in today’s world. However, looking at the recent economic and political patterns that the U.S. has been in (plus this “recession” that we are in), Panarin’s theories may just hold some weight.

But since the U.S. is technically so powerful, it is not very logical to have disintegration as soon as the summer of 2010. Still, Panarin’s beliefs should not be so easily discarded. After all, the Soviet Union was once the leading global power, and it crumbled down in 1989. 

12/29/08

Source: Wall Street Journal




Highlights
  • Prof. Igor Panarin says United States will break into six groups in 2010
  • Panarin cites moral, political, and economic downfall as possible causes for separation
  • The theory has gotten more media and scholarly coverage, but also a few skeptical responses




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Comments (26):


David Loveless
2008 12 30

First of all we don’t want South Carolina because they got us in Trouble with that Fort thing in 1861. Second we don’t want the other states either, just give us our Original Territorial Boundaries and return the land you took from us in 1845. The sons of the defenders of the Alamo have our reputations to maintain the rest of you have to prove yourself first before we ally with you. As for Mexico, we beat the crap out of them in 1835 and we will do’er again!!! REMBER THE ALAMO!!!!!

By the way Cincinnati, Thanks for those cannons at San Jacinto. The twin sisters mowed them down.


AdamHistory
2009 01 10

I have predicted this for awhile too.  The US is too big and diverse to sustain itself under one banner.  Didn’t think it would happen this soon.  Still skeptical anyway.

1) Californian Republic makes sense, except for AZ, more culturally connected to NM
2) I predict a TX split with AZ, NM, OK and LA, but not the rest of the southeast, certainly not FL.
3) The southeast will most likely form a unit (I hesitate to say nation) unto itself, but it may include Puerto Rico, and include TN, KY, SC and NC.

And then again, maybe I am just crazy!


Austin long
2009 01 13

Ahhhhhh…

Sounds iffy, doesn’t it? While I think it’s a been unrealistic for this to happen by 2010, it’s not really that far fetched. It’s just one guy’s theory. Maybe BS. But like he said, the same thing happened to that guy who predicted the fall of the SU.

So God, maybe this will happen. America may be powerufl, but with that power comes responsibility, duh. Looking at the recent USnews (politics, finance, etc) the trend right now is to go downhill. Heres fingers crossed for Obama and his team.


NineStates
2009 01 14

Only a drunk Russian would ever predict that South Carolina would join New York as a new nation!
Seriously though, USA may well “disintegrate” into nine superstates...I think this action will only serve to make USA bigger and stronger.
NAFTA may actually save us from disaster....
Nine Nations(superstates) of North America=
New England(obvious)
Quebec
Dixie(obvious)
Texas(includes NM, OK, AR, and LA west of Mississippi, plus Chihuahua and Coahuila)
The Prairies
California(includes AZ,UT, plus Baja and Sonora)
Mexico(obivious)
The Antillies(S. Fl, Cuba, Hispanola, PR, jamaica??)
This 21st Century is shaping up pretty good for us.


carl lewis
2009 01 17

class project


Ben Kelly
2009 02 07

It’s amazing how quickly you lemmings all follow this guy off the cliff.  I got a bridge for sale in California . . . any takers?


Tom Mendo
2009 03 21

I think we all need to take a deep breath on this topic. First thing first. A civil war in 2010? c’mon people. Second we all better be prepared for the upcoming Rapture (the second coming of Jesus Christ). Jesus Christ is Lord. Now that’s worth talking about. Don’t let the Devil try to scare you about some war that won’t happen. Be strong. Not weak.  No Jesus?--No Peace!!  Know Jesus?--Know Peace!!  Shame on you Satan!!! You big dope!


ying ching lee
2009 03 21

CHINLEE!!!!


David Wies
2009 03 30

PREDICTIONS ARE NOT EDGED IN STONE.  THEY ARE GIVEN TO US SO THAT WE HAVE TIME TO CHANGE THEM, IF WE SO DESIRE TO.


frank
2009 04 21

interesting


Vickie
2009 04 23

I feel like

“Massive Devestation is Imminent!”

“California will be attacked by missles.”

“There will be a military invasion.”


Cynthia
2009 05 28

Does all this matter, The fall of the Nation, We’ve lived like the Romans too long..Watch NOVA(PBS.org) for facts as we have some serious space problems headed towards our planet over the next few years.  Even Paul Allen is scrambling to help...IF this planet survives through these major events,,,Then we can worry as a very small group of survivors...And your right, The Lord our God in all his glory is coming and everyone will see it from the sky...Party is over everyone out of the pool.


C
2009 05 29

A major change within a country doesn’t happen over night. The fall of Russia didn’t just happen in 1989 The end of the fall of Russia happened in 1989. Countries, like the weather around us change at a steady pace. I agree that this country has started down a path of change. Although I do not believe that the change will just happen in a blink of an eye. After all Rome fell over a spell of 500 Years. The thing that seems to scare everyone is the concept of the unknown. “What might happen” will always captivate people as well as scare them to chaotic behavior. This country will change, is changing and has always changed. Imagine how U.S. citizens felt when the industrial revolution hit full force. Change is not always a bad thing.


Myrdek
2009 06 05

That date is too early but the fall is almost guaranteed. Economist are estimating a true depression by next year so we’ll see the reaction then

I would think that it would be seperated between the religious fanatic south and the more moderate north. (Blue/Red States kind of thing)


Chris
2009 07 06

I would expect the US to start falling apart sometime in the next 50 years and us religious fanantics (which include me) will take over the central and south statea....the leftcoasts will go with the liberals


kyle
2009 09 15

YOUR ALL DUMB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


kyle
2009 09 15

If the usa goes down the world will go with! ha ha ha you all know its ture!



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