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Jon G.
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This “article” is completely wrong about the Donofrio suit.  It says:

“Donofrio vs. Wells is one of numerous lawsuits filed to stay the election, on the premise that Obama was not a US born citizen, and thus, is constitutionally unable to occupy the office of the presidency. The suit was filed on behalf of Leo Donofrio against New Jersey Secretary of State Nina Mitchell Wells. It’s one of numerous lawsuits challenging Obama and Hawaii to produce Obama’s original birth certificate, which state officials claim to have on record. “

Sorry but that is completely wrong.  Donofrio actually believes that Obama was born in Hawaii, as a US citizen.  His suit is based on a completely different issue.

How could a person spend 15 minutes writing this tripe and get everything so completely backwards?

The Donofrio case: “natural born citizen” (not about Obama’s birth certificate)
By Arlen Williams

Today, before the United States Supreme Court lies Leo Donofrio v. Nina Mitchell Wells, New Jersey Secretary of State. This suit was received by Justice Thomas, and by the determination of the entire court, it is scheduled for conference Friday, December 5. This conference is held to decide what, if any, further steps should be taken. Only two of these steps would be to either intervene in the process of selecting the president, or to hear oral arguments.

Essence of the case

By this case, Barack Obama, John McCain, and Roger Calero (of the Socialist Workers Party, on the New Jersey ballot) do not qualify as “natural born Citizens” under Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution, which states the following:
No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
Standing

Other cases against Obama’s candidacy have been rejected by various courts, due to a private citizen’s apparent lack of standing to sue a candidate. However, this case is an action against the Secretary of State of New Jersey and as such, has precedent, as Donofrio relates. He originally sought to motivate the Secretary to qualify or disqualify these three candidates on the New Jersey ballot. Donofrio also cites 2000’s famous Florida case, Bush v. Gore, as precedent for a state case regarding a presidential election to be brought to the Supreme Court for emergency action.

Merit: reasoning behind Donofrio v. Wells

To interpret the U.S. Constitution with intellectual honesty, one must maintain the integrity of the meaning of the Constitution. That means interpreting the letter of the law: its words and phrases, based upon the immediate context of the Constitution itself, any explanations of the framers, traditional meaning inherited by the framers, and the generally accepted, legal meanings of words and phrases in use at the time of its drafting. Further, attention is to be paid to the spirit of the law, by understanding the purposes of the framers and the results they sought or sought to avoid, as they drafted each element of the Constitution.

In view of these considerations, being a “natural born Citizen” here requires meeting both of these two criteria: (1) citizenship must be passed on by the constitutionally pertinent principle of natural law, which assumes that citizenship is inherited from one’s father’s citizenship, and (2) citizenship must be granted by means of being born in the actual territory of the United States. Accordingly, to maintain the original intention of the Constitution’s framers, a U.S. President is to be free of competing allegiances with other nations, from birth onward. To cite Donofrio’s own words from his blog:
The Framers wanted to make themselves eligible to be President, but they didn’t want future generations to be Governed by a Commander In Chief who had split loyalty to another Country. The Framers were comfortable making an exception for themselves. They did, after all, create the Constitution. But they were not comfortable with the possibility of future generations of Presidents being born under the jurisdiction of Foreign Powers, especially Great Britain and its monarchy, who the Framers and Colonists fought so hard in the American Revolution to be free of.
According to this case, Barack H. Obama II is not qualified, because his father, Barack H. Obama I, was a citizen of the United Kingdom as a Kenyan. Kenya was a British colony at the time of Obama II’s birth in 1961. This citizenship was conferred to Obama II by U.K. law. Further to this case is the apparent fact that Obama II became a citizen of Indonesia, when he lived there as a child with his mother and adoptive father, Lolo Soetoro. This would mean Obama’s U.S. Citizenship status was revoked, since Indonesia had no dual-citizenship provision with the U.S.A.

According to this case, John McCain is not qualified, because he was born on a military base in the Panama Canal Zone, which was a protectorate of the United States and has never been a territory of the United States, even though his parents were U.S. Citizens.

According to this case, Roger Calero is not qualified, because he was born a citizen of Nicaragua, to foreign parents, on foreign soil. The mere fact that Roger Calero was on the ballot in five states indicates to the Supreme Court and the nation, that the process of qualifying a presidential candidate is broken and intervention is necessary.

Merit: context, corroboration, and case law

Corroborative to this case, the Constitution’s Article 1, Section 8, Clause 10 states that a power of Congress is to “define and punish… offenses against the law of nations.” The Law of Nations has been international law, which as documented by Emmerich de Vatel (1758) states, in Chapter XIX, paragraph 212, “The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.”

Vatel follows with paragraph 215, in which he asserts, “It is asked whether the children born of citizens in a foreign country are citizens? The laws have decided this question in several countries, and their regulations must be followed.(59) By the law of nature alone, children follow the condition of their fathers, and enter into all their rights (§ 212); the place of birth produces no change in this particular, and cannot, of itself, furnish any reason for taking from a child what nature has given him; I say ‘of itself,’ for, civil or political laws may, for particular reasons, ordain otherwise.”

The chief framer of the related 14th Amendment of the Constitution, John A. Bingham corroborated this dual criteria stating, “every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.” An extensive analysis citing this is Defining Natural-Born Citizen, by P.A. Madison, The Federalist Blog.

Since then, the case of Perkins v. ELG, U.S. 325 (1939) provides precedent for requiring these two criteria, for one to be called a “native born citizen” (see, The Law — Perkins v. ELG, blog, The Betrayal).

St. George Tucker, Justice of the Supreme Court of Virginia, wrote a version of the authoritative Blackstone’s Commentaries: With Notes of Reference to the Constitution… which became a recognized resource for determining the framers’ original intent. In his Volume 1 — Appendix; Note D, he explained that the Article 2 “natural born Citizen” requirement was purposed to avoid competing allegiances:
That provision in the constitution which requires that the president shall be a native-born citizen (unless he were a citizen of the United States when the constitution was adopted,) is a happy means of security against foreign influence, which, wherever it is capable of being exerted, is to be dreaded more than the plague. The admission of foreigners into our councils, consequently, cannot be too much guarded against; their total exclusion from a station to which foreign nations have been accustomed to, attach ideas of sovereign power, sacredness of character, and hereditary right, is a measure of the most consummate policy and wisdom. It was by means of foreign connections that the stadtholder of Holland, whose powers at first were probably not equal to those of a president of the United States, became a sovereign hereditary prince before the late revolution in that country. Nor is it with levity that I remark, that the very title of our first magistrate, in some measure exempts us from the danger of those calamities by which European nations are almost perpetually visited. The title of king, prince, emperor, or czar, without the smallest addition to his powers, would have rendered him a member of the fraternity of crowned heads: their common cause has more than once threatened the desolation of Europe. To have added a member to this sacred family in America, would have invited and perpetuated among us all the evils of Pandora’s Box.
Certainly, this applied to sons of subjects of the United Kingdom (and the fact that one such subject would travel abroad to declare himself a “Citizen of the World” before hundreds of thousands might also have provided relevant warning).

Intended result of this case

The Donofrio suit calls for a stay of the Dec. 15 Electoral College vote, until a constitutionally acceptable means is attained, of presenting the Electors a set of qualified candidates.

During or after their Dec. 5 conference, the Supreme Court could decide upon a number of directions. Their next step may be revealed this very day, or on Monday, Dec. 8, or at some other time. A book could be written of the many potential outcomes — and historians will write libraries about one set of results, in their hindsight.

The Supreme Court is not scheduled to decide Obama’s Citizenship, but his eligibility to hold the office of the President of the US.
The US Constitution states “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President”. Obama is not qualified to hold the office of the President of the US because he is NOT a natural born Citizen according to the Constitution. Whether he was born in Hawaii or not, his biological father was from Kenya, giving Obama dual citizenship (and loyalties) at birth, which, according to the framers of the Constitution, who didn’t even consider themselves “natural born Citizens” (being born on US soil by two parents who were Both born on US soil). Obama is no doubt a US Citizen, even a born Citizen, but NOT a natural born Citizen, according to the US Constitution.
It is the Supreme Court’s job to uphold the Laws of the US Constitution. No one can deny that Obama’s father was not born on US soil and no one can deny that Obama is not 200+ years old (born at the time of the adoption of the Constitution). These facts alone disqualify Obama to hold the office of the President of the United States of America.
According to Title 28, Chapter I, Part 453 of the United States Code, each Supreme Court Justice takes the following oath:
“I, [NAME], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will administer justice without respect to persons, and do equal right to the poor and to the rich, and that I will faithfully and impartially discharge and perform all the duties incumbent upon me as [TITLE] under the Constitution and laws of the United States. So help me God.”
The Supreme Court is obligated, by sworn oath, to administer justice without respect to persons; and the framers of the Constitution were very clear regarding who is eligible to hold the highest office in the US. This cannot be taken lightly or ignored. If we ignore this, why follow any Constitutional Law? Think of the butterfly effect – disregard this law and eventually the whole Constitution will be ignored and anything goes in America. There is no compromising just to keep the masses happy.
If we do not abide by Constitutional Law, then how is our country, which has always been based on upholding, protecting and defending the Constitution at all cost, ever to survive?

It is a fact that the Constitution does not define ANY terms. Those who define its terms are giving legal advice and are not identifying themselves as qualified to do so.

The Supreme Court will handle the matter before it. Let us all be guided by the result!

The image posted is NOT a “Certificate” of Live Birth, aka Birth Certificate. It is a “Certification” of Live Birth. Do you homework!!! Go to the State of Hawaii website and learn that these two (2) types of documents are NOT one and the same.

Hello, everyone,

Thanks for all of your comments. I’ve amended a few parts of my article to make clearer what the suit is alleging. Donofrio is indeed stating that Obama is not a natural born citizen. I accidentally interchanged “US Born Citizen” and “Natural Born Citizen,” thus allowing for the confusion. The sentence has been corrected, and I apologize for the error.

Additionally, Salon is the news source that reported that Fukino said that the certificate was “identical” to hers. I’ve gone back and cited them as well.

Also, dude, “mental midget” is not the preferred nomenclature. “Mental little person”, please

DO NOT cite some else’s article as a source!!! Do you own research until you can confirm the actual source. Otherwise, you are just employing the GIGO rule… Garbage In is Garbage Out!

Atty. Donofrio does’n care if Obama was born at the Lincoln Menorial he is still not a ‘Natural Born Citizen’ and not eligable to be POTUS. Now can any of your constipated brains absorb the reason that is true.....I doubt it.......perhaps that is why you are known as s**theads. He is a usurper and will be exposed and everything done to that time will have to be unzipped....This is the cost this country will pay because you people just don’t get it. He is not qualified ...I know it ...He knows it ...and one day after the country is stressed to the max....even you will know it.....In a few hours the Supremes will clean your clock and you will pull the hood over your faces and sneak home.

It is interesting - so ultimately the court does decide after a long drawn out process that he is not eligible, then what?

Furthermore, if the court decides that he is eligible - will there be a fringe group that will protest the court’s decision, like the gay protesters rejecting the court’s decision about marriage being between only a man and woman?

The left is betting on the Supreme’s wiggling out
by pawning it off to Congress.  After Bush v. Gore and a hailstorm of angry lefties, they want this bird out of their barn.

The Right is betting on a full blown hearing.  They will use the old left cry of disenfranchised voters, if it is not heard.

It would be a simple deal if Barry would “open up”:
1. Occidental College records—Not released
2. Columbia College records—Not released
3. Columbia Thesis paper—‘ not available ‘
4. Harvard College records—Not released
5. Selective Service Registration—Not released
6. Medical records—Not released
7. Illinois State Senate schedule—‘ not available ‘
8. Law practice client list—Not released
9. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate—Not released
10. Embossed, signed, paper Certification of Live Birth—Not released
11. Harvard Law Review articles published—None
12. University of Chicago scholarly articles—None
13. Your Record of baptism-- Not released or ‘ not available ‘
14. Your Illinois State Senate records-- ‘ not available ‘

Listen good people, please don’t worry about this one either. God has bought Obama through so much adversity, so much ridicule from haters, so many test and trials, over so many barriers. God is faithful. He has allowed him to come this far...will He leave him now? (NO)!!! When God ordains a thing, no man can change the out come. Remember that. Peace and Love

God help us if the rumors are true about Obama not being a natural born citizen. Question is, will the “powers that be” uphold the constitution if it is found to be true that he is not what he says he is???

At nearly 70 yrs old, I have been around for a few
presidential elections.  I have been following this issue since it was brought up by Hillary before the Democratic primary.  No mainstream media!  Still little if any mainstream media. 
Rumors that the Obama camp has spent $500,000. plus
in travel and legal fees to stop and plug every leak of information.  WHY? 
As we voice our opinions, there are nearly 20 ongoing court cases regarding Obama’s eligibility and they are coming like a freight train.  They will not go away until this man is opens up with the information.  It is a shame to see a once again divided country over wondering who the maybe
president is.  I am a middle of the road thinker and have no crystal ball into the future, maybe, Obama will make a great President, but it the people don’t trust him, it is an up hill battle.
P.S.  I didn’t like either Obama or McCain so my vote went......

To:  When God Ordains

Ditto, Ditto!  Thank you!  I agee 500%.  Inspite of all the legal rhetoric, misinterpretations of the Constitution and its Amendments, the bottom line is when God ordains something, no man can change the outcome!  Praise the Lord because God has brought Obama this far and no Devil will change that.

Every article I have read about this issue from the “mainstream media” is grossly inaccurate in its facts.  Is this just mass incompetency on the part of the media, or an organized effort to discount the importance of this issue?  At any rate, for you Obama supporters, please give me one good reason why he refuses to disclose his complete birth certificate to the American people.  Please state one good reason why he would spend hundreds of thousands of dollars fighting multiple lawsuits all the way to the Supreme Court, rather than merely spending $12 on a certified copy of his birth certificate for submission to the court.  Just one good reason . . .

When God Ordains,

Obama’s grandmother stated that she was at the birth in Kenya.  So tell us how this works into God ordaining anything?  One of them is lying and I’m guessing it’s not the Grandmother, as she has nothing to gain.

God warns of worshiping false idols. Remember that.

Obama was born in the USA.  Claims that relatives said he was born elsewhere are false.  Claims that Obama is not a “natural born” citizen because he holds dual citizenship are similarly false.  It’s laughable, absurd.

Read this from another site.  It just labels this so beautifully.

“So why are these right-wingers pushing this issue so hard? Is it because they have suddenly come to love the Constitution that their party has repeatedly trashed over the last eight years? Or is it some kind of death-wish desire for Joe Biden to move into the White House? I suppose we’ll never know.

But we do know this: If this scenario plays out then the country will be significantly damaged. This is perhaps the worst possible time to compound the current vacuum of leadership by putting Obama’s status in question. The State of Hawaii has said he was born in that state and they have the documentation to prove it, case closed. One can only conclude that the true objective of these bloggers is to harm the United States by creating an issue where none really exists.

Not that this is anything new to them after supporting torture and other unimaginable Bush Administration policies. It’s simply another example of just how dangerous the Angry Right can be. Don’t get me wrong—the Angry Left can be a problem, too. But in terms of impact on the health of the country there is no comparison. The Angry Right has been destructive. They just don’t care about America—they only want power and the ability to dictate how the rest of us should behave. They don’t even care about the Republican Party—witness its fall primarily due to the schisms caused by the uncompromising extreme right wing.”

To:  Mr. Jones

You are merely operating from a standpoint of heresay, rumors, presumptions, innuindoes, what appears to be right/correct in your view and just flat right-out lies that people make.  (You do realize that people lie don’t you?) I will say this, though, this election has exposed the evil in man’s heart and there are those who have tried to disguise it through religion. I guarantee you this - if President-elect Obama were Caucasian, we would not even hear of any such lawsuit and it surely would not have reached the level that it has.  But, I know, this is not about race, right?  Yeah, right.  Sounds familiar to me.

BTW:

You are so unlearned about the facts and about the Word, any further comments from me would be a waste of my time.

Claims?

It’s of record and supported by the Kenyan Ambassadors statements, and several of Barry’s own family (also of record), if you choose not to research, you should not post.

BTW:

You are so unlearned about the facts and about the Word, any further comments from me would be a waste of my time.

To:  Okay, so now, this website is blocking my comments?  What are you afraid of?  The truth??

wow...is he actually King Arthur or the messiah?? I don’t think God had “ordained” any such thing as our presidential election. We are not that important in the whole picture!

His paternal grandmother swears she saw his birth in kenya.

Denise,

So to be clear, I’m a racist because his Black Grandmother says that he was not born in Kenya.

The race argument is wearing thin, get a new card. This is a constitutional argument, no more, no less.

Tired of people who cannot read. Tired of people who misinterpret what they read. Tired of people who do not do their homework BEFORE they write an article. Tired of bad journalism. Tired of people who are dumber than toast (this is what American education has generated in the last 30 years). Tired of those who do not know their American history. Tired of the sheep who voted for “change” without having the slightest idea what that “change” was going to be. Tired of idiots who swoon at Obama’s empty, blathering speeches. Tired of those in the news who then go on to interpret the nothingness in these empty speeches (”What he was really saying…” or “What he meant to say…” or “What he seemed to say…”).

If Obama has nothing to hide, he should produce his birth certificate and college records. There is an old saying that aptly applies to this: Where there is smoke, there is fire!

Obama, your pants appear to be on fire!

Why should the courts make decisions based on the constitution, Judges are much more powerful and have allegiances to nothing. Judges are independent, and do not have to waste time to even read the constitution, right?

Obama is so great, we should make an exception - besides he has already been elected, and it is just to much work to set things right!

Also, our associates will look like total idiots because they didn’t do their due diligence beforehand.

Wrong.  Obama produced a 2007 short form copy of his birth certificate, and not the original long form that was created 47 years ago.  Contact Brooks Jackson at the Annenberg Foundation’s factcheck.org, to whom Obama gave the copy, and he will confirm that.  So, no, Obama did not produce the original, and the assertion in this article that he did is utterly sloppy and false.  Jack Thompson, Miami

The “native born” term is arguable.  However, since Obama hasn’t released his actual birth certificate we can’t even give him the benefit of the doubt.  I can’t think of one logical reason not to release the original.  Something is rotten when you spend $500,000+ to prevent releasing a piece of paper that costs $14.

I greatly saddened by this turn of events.  I had high hopes for Mr. Obama.

I am glad I have a real birth certificate - now I see how important it is to be a real citizen.  Does this mean that Obama will be deported?

Whomever may be operating from a standpoint of heresay, rumors, presumptions, innuindoes, or what may be right/correct in their own view, or even if people are telling outright lies--there is one best way for the country to put this to rest.  Mr. Obama--help us out here--present your documentation--very easy to do.  By insisting on not doing so, you are placing your own importance and self-interest above what is best for the country you say you love enough to lead.  Isn’t this kind of like painting over the American flag on your plane?  Rather than having Old Glory as your symbol, you’d rather have an “O” for your name with a tiny bit of the red and white stripes at the BOTTOM of your self-created symbol!  A little egotistical if you ask me, and eerily, similarly characteristic of a person who would like to dictate rather than lead.

By simply producing his birth certificate Mr. Obama can end all this conflict and controversy. I’m just kinda wondering why he’s allowing the right wingers to drag this issue all the way to the Supreme Court. A publicly certifiable birth certificate will end the matter. For love of country, please DO IT NOW!

Denise: you wrote a fairly long respose to Mr. Jones but failed to answer his question. I see some reverse racism in your comment. Senator McCain was asked to produce a birth certificate and did so in a timely manner. I wish Mr. Obama would do likewise.

President Elect Obama’s birth place confirmed by Kenyan Ambassador in call to Ambassador Peter Ogego placed by Detroit radio station WRIF’s “Mike in the Morning” on 11/21/2008. Ambassador Ogego confirms President Elect Obama’s birth place in Kenya is “already an attraction” and that there’s no need for a monument to mark President Elect Obama’s birth place in Kenya because “its already well known”. The confirmation is about 2/3 the way thru the audio . . . . . . but the first part authenticates the phone call.

President Elect Obama’s birth place confirmed by Kenyan Ambassador in call to Ambassador Peter Ogego placed by Detroit radio station WRIF’s “Mike in the Morning” on 11/21/2008. Ambassador Ogego confirms President Elect Obama’s birth place in Kenya is “already an attraction” and that there’s no need for a monument to mark President Elect Obama’s birth place in Kenya because “its already well known”. The confirmation is about 2/3 the way thru the audio . . . . . . but the first part authenticates the phone call. Here is the link http://my.wrif.com/mim/?p=916

If Obama were a Republican this would be front page news.  The State Department needs the long form birth certificate to issue passports, but Obama doesn’t have to provide his to be president?

It isn’t about Conservative versus Liberal. It is about the Constitution. This story is not new. It has just been silenced by the mainstream until a groundswell of anger that we have been ignored, has risen and now the internet MUST take notice. We just want the truth. And after 8 years of Bush ripping our Constitution to shreds, we cannot stand another fraud.

Pheffler,

The Consitution does not say both of your parents have to be US citizens for you to be a “natural born citizen.” In fact, NEITHER of your parents need to be citizens for you to be a natural born citizen.

Read the freaking 14th Amendment.  “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States.” There are two types of US citizens, “natural born citizens” and “naturalized citizens.” By virtue of being born in the United States, Obama is a “natural born citizen” regardless of his parents’ citizenship.

Papa Boulder

It is humorous and sad at the same time to see people trying to equate Obama to the New Messiah and his possible immaculate conception and birth.
I think this may answer it:
There was a man from Kilkanky,
He collected his sperm in a hanky,
He would leave it on public bus seats,
There for young buttocks to meet,
and that’s how Obama was born.

Either that or Obama can sign the release and pay the $12.00 and produce a certified copy of his birth certificate.

When God Ordains!? God ordained Obama to fool Americans? That’s is BLASFEMY! Americans were FOOLED. Almost everything about Obama is FAKE, including possibly his birth certificate. The Obama image was manufactured by a very expensive campaign, financed with hundreds of millions of dollars, donated largely by U.S. enemies such as George Soros.

The mainstream media have become our enemies. We can’t trust them. They hid important facts and presented only the Obama image they wanted Americans to buy. In spite of media effort to hide facts, it’s obvious that, like his parents, mentors, relatives, friends and associates, Obama is a Marxist who hates America.

Brainwashed by the media, Americans became as foolish as the most ignorant Venezuelans, Bolivians and Ecuadorians who believed in CHANGE and YES WE CAN and now see that CHANGE means change toward Marxism, loss of freedom and rights, and greater poverty, despair and corruption. And YES WE CAN means Marxists like Castro, Chavez and Obama CAN fool people

It seems Soviet defector Yuri Bezmenov was right when he warned that, through media manipulation, Americans would be brainwashed and would allow their country to be taken over by Marxists: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k6KUDv1wzraWhwlBt1

If Obama does not meet Constitutional requirements to hold the office of President, the Court must decertify the election. Americans have the right to be protected from Marxists planted by U.S. enemies to destroy us.

Americans were FOOLED. Almost everything about Obama is FAKE, including possibly his birth certificate. The Obama image was manufactured by a very expensive campaign, financed with hundreds of millions of dollars, donated largely by U.S. enemies such as George Soros.

The mainstream media have become our enemies. We can’t trust them. They hid important facts and presented only the Obama image they wanted Americans to buy. In spite of media effort to hide facts, it’s obvious that, like his parents, mentors, relatives, friends and associates, Obama is a Marxist who hates America.

Brainwashed by the media, Americans became as foolish as the most ignorant Venezuelans, Bolivians and Ecuadorians who believed in CHANGE and YES WE CAN and now see that CHANGE means change toward Marxism, loss of freedom and rights, and greater poverty, despair and corruption. And YES WE CAN means Marxists like Castro, Chavez and Obama CAN fool people

It seems Soviet defector Yuri Bezmenov was right when he warned that, through media manipulation, Americans would be brainwashed and would allow their country to be taken over by Marxists: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k6KUDv1wzraWhwlBt1

If Obama does not meet Constitutional requirements to hold the office of President, the Court must decertify the election. Americans have the right to be protected from Marxists planted by U.S. enemies to destroy us.

The so called birth certificate Obama campaign produced say his father’s race was African.  the word African was not used back in 1961, the word for race was black or Negro. the US Census Bureau changed it in 1980.  When he filled out forms when he was elected state senator of Illinois, he was asked if he used any other name, he answered NO.  LIE He had the name Barry Soetoro when he went to school in Indonesia.  He had or still has and Indonesian passport, what did he show to obtain it.  This man has lied and broke every campaign rule in the book.  If all these lawsuits are denied and he is made President, this man would have just done the biggest fraud against America in history.  To many unanswered questions about him and neither he or his campaign in answering any of them.  WHY WHY WHY

This is all about race as far as the left is concerned. We have our first black president and that’s all that matters. If he was born to the same father and mother, had the same resume, (what little we know of it) and spoke as articulately as he does when giving his Seinfeld speeches, but had white skin instead of black skin, he would have been laughed off the political stage when running for president. No legislative experience or at least any record of accomplishment, and the Hillary forces would have sent him packing no matter how many speeches of “hope and change” he gave. We don’t know anymore about the guy than he wants us to know. He refuses to answer all the substantive questions we have about him. Why? We can all agree he is no dummy. So why not release his college transcripts and make his Illinois legislative record more transparent? Doesn’t that seem odd to any of you who voted for him? What do those of you who supported him know about him? Within 48 hours of Sara Palin being introduced as the V.P. candidate we learned more about her than we have about Obama in the past two years of his campaigning.

all you obama bashers!you don’t have a life!you feel bad about yourself and nobody cares about you.you wouldn’t have time for negative feedback

Let’s start of with John Jay the first Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. 

John Jay to George Washington

New York 25 July 1787

Permit me to hint, whether it would not be wise & seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expresly that the Command in chief of the american army shall not be given to, nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen.

Let’s move on to the 2nd amendment of the constitution.

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

Notice it says: “or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution”

This is because they where only citizens and not natural born citizens. Even though they where born in this country.

Finally we have the 14th amendment

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Notice it says: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States.”

They did not separate all persons born and naturalized. So therefore they both are only citizens and not natural born.

This means you can be born in this country and not have natural born citizenship if you fall under any other country’s jurisdiction.

Barack Obama admits on his web site, fight the smears and confirmed by fact check that he fell under Kenya’s jurisdiction, At the time Kenya was under British control. Barack Obama is also British Citizen.

In-conclusion Barack Obama is a U.S. Citizen but he is not a Natural Born U.S Citizen.

To those who supported and voted for Obama, I say a heartfelt congratulations. Truly.  It was an historic day for all Americans.  I did not vote for Obama, but he is my President Elect, and I would like to give him the benefit of the doubt.  However, this cloud hanging over his eligibility is making that hard to do.  Defending and upholding the Constitution is more important than “unity” and more important than any one personality.  The Constitution is absolutely central to our form of government. It is the supreme law of the land.  If we begin to ignore the black letter text of the Constitution, then it soon ceases to be a constitution and we are on a slippery slope towards tyranny.  Some may say we have already started down that slope, but at least up til now there have been arguments presented (even if poor arguments) that at least attempt to address the Constitutional issues and leave the formal authority of the Constitution intact.  Just ignoring it is not acceptable. 

I just want the Supreme Court to hear the case to show that at least somebody gives a care about the Constitution.  They don’t even have to necessarily declare Obama eligible/ineligible.  I just want the facts and the law on this issue out there for all to see.  There needs to be a clear independent determination of the facts and a clear independent determination of the law defining “natural born citizen”.  Even if the Supreme Court doesn’t want to inject itself into a presidential race, it at least needs to be a clearinghouse of the facts and law.  Then on Dec 15 trust the Electoral College to do their duty, as they are also sworn to uphold the Constitution.  Both of these bodies have a rendezvous with duty.  May they rise to the occasion and not shrink.

I suspect that Obama himself does not believe he meets the qualifications of “natural born citizen”, otherwise he would have cooperated by now.  Some point out that he has already released his “birth certificate” on his website.  But the posting of a short-form Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) on his website does not suffice, because that same COLB certificate is given to those of foreign birth who just register their foreign birth with Hawaii.  Why does he not just allow his long-form birth certificate (e.g. showing hospital, doctor, etc) to be released.  I also find it very revealing that Hawaiian officials will not say he was born in Hawaii; they just say they have seen his birth certificate.  That’s a very odd parsing of words when the direct question was whether he was actually born in Hawaii.  Maybe he was born in Kenya and according to law he could still be considered a natural born citizen.  I would be okay with that.  Just let the facts and the law be aired.  Let the chips fall where they may.  Our constitutional republic can withstand the truth faced squarely.  But we would not be able to withstand just sweeping aside the Constitution for “unity”.  If we do so, we will have neither.

We know that the Supreme Court did not issue of Writ of Certiorari today.  They could still take it up next week.  May all freedom-loving and Constitution-loving Americans pray this weekend that the Supreme Court will muster the courage to do their duty and hear the facts and law on this prior to the Electoral College meeting on 15 Dec.  “We here highly resolve… that government of the People, by the People, and for the People shall not perish from the earth.”

Sorry, Donofrio case won’t be discussed (no appeal)
here is list of all conferences to be discussed by Supreme Court on 12/05 and 12/08
SCOTUS quote “As always, the list contains the petitions on the Court’s paid docket that Tom has deemed to have a reasonable chance of being granted”
conferences on December 5 and December 12.
please carefully note
NO DONOFRIO, repeat NO DONOFRIO, Got it?

Supreme Court link:
http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/petitions-to-watch-conferences-of-12508-121208/

it’s bye bye to Donofrio not wait for Monday, got it?

come on wingnuts, what do you say?

When God ordains something, no man can change the outcome? How about when God ordains the conception of a child in the womb and man (or woman) decides to abort that child? It seems to me that changes the outcome. Perhaps we’re about to witness a ‘partial-presidential abortion’ over this ‘natural born citizen’ issue. Let’s see, a president elect who promised his first act in office would be to sign the FOCA act into law has his presidency terminated before he can get sworn in. It’s kind of like the unborn child who, just prior to being born, never gets to take a breath or see the light of day.

I take umbrage to the comment by Xander who suggested that the “right-wingers” trashed the Constitution for 8 years. Neo Conservatives (NeoCons) are not right-wingers. They aren’t even conservatives.  The Bush presidency was not, by any stretch of the imagination, a right wing presidency.  It was every bit as destructive as the “left wing” presidency before it.  Little by little, both sides have chipped away at our Constitutional guarantees, while all the time polarizing the American people to believe that they were either Liberal or Conservative.  The fact is that both sides are working toward a Global Government.  In the next few years, the North American Union will be created and U.S. sovereignty will cease to exist.  Maybe then you will realize that they were all working toward a common goal.  Of course, by then it will be too late.  If we don’t open our eyes and demand better from our government, then we are just as bad as the traitors who created this mess.  (Yes, I said traitors.  This includes Presidents, Senators, Congressmen, Supreme Court Justices and American voters on both sides of the imaginary fence who either actively sold us into slavery or through inaction permitted it to happen.  We have no one to blame but ourselves.) As a “right winger” I’d like to see a distinction drawn between US and THEM.

listen up people if your talking about race or gods plan i have a great idea either join a racial cult and explain it in their presence or read the bible and learn god will not interfear in mans law sorry people the supreame court will rule and that is by governing by the u.s. constitution and upholding the laws they were sworn to uphold and, furthere thought leads me to understand if he would give up the info on him self this would go alot smoother for us and moreso for him and get this over with!!!!

It is my understanding from reading the different articles in the above, that neither McCain nor Obama is a natural born citizen of the United States.  If this is true, then neither qualify to be The President of the United States.

The next question is, “What do we do?”

It should be determined, from a constitutional standpoint, whether or not both campaigns were legal or not.

If not legal, would it be constitutional for Bush to finish up his term and the third in line take the presidency on a temporary basis til a new campaign be run.  Or would Biden and Paln have a run off?

All facts should be given to the Supreme Court and let them arrive at the proper constitutional decision.

Thank you.

The Framers of the Constitution were protecting us from anyone serving as the President of the US from having alligience to any other country. Natural born is simply a child born of two US Citizens (naturalized or natural born), without any allegiance to any other nation (dual citizenship).

Just from a simple logical standpoint.

Let’s say Mohamed Atta (9/11 attacker) impregnated an american women (US Citizen) while he was in our country planning the attacks. The child would be a US Citizen, however would you want this child to have the right to be the President of our Country?

This issue is much bigger than Obama and could have far reaching consequences to our country.

Maezeppa, thank you, you have just convinced me Obama is eligible with all those supporting facts.

Denise, I’m surprised it took you so long to take out the race card.

Just the constitution ma’am.

Just come clean, get the BC, then all this will go away, he knows the law, we all know the law, what’s the big deal....

you need to report the truth.

2 forensic scientists have concluded that Obama’s presented birth certificate is a fraud.

http://www.rightsidenews.com/200811222725/editorial/the-great-birth-certificate-scandal-cover-up-of-the-2008-election.html

HEY DENISE ARE YOU UNAWARE OF WHO OBAMA’S MOTHER IS?  SHE IS A 100% WHITE WOMAN.  ACTUALLY STATISTICS SHOW THAT OBAMA IS 50% WHITE, 47% AFRICAN AND 3% ARAB NATIONALITY.  SO IF ANYTHING HE IS BI-RACIAL.  NONE THE LESS I DO NOT BUY INTO THE HYPE OF THE MEDIA, BUT DON’T UNDERSTAND WHY HE WOULD HIRE A LAW FIRM (NOT LAWYERS) TO FIGHT THIS CASE TO NOT HAVE TO SHOW HIS COLLEGE TRANSCRIPTS OR ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE.  WHY SPEND HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING YOU VIEW THE PAPER WORK IN QUESTION.  THOSE WHO TRY TO CONCEAL USUALLY ARE TRYING TO HIDE SOMETHING.  THIS IS WHY PEOPLE CARE SO MUCH IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE COLOR OF HIS SKIN.  I AM BLACKER THAN HE IS!

This mess is just so bogus. If President Elect Obama was not a citizen don’t you think it would have been proven by now?  Please someone produce the proof that his mother traveled to Africa to give birth to him.

This is just stupid!

To Xander:
When Obama is found inelligble then it won’t be Biden moving into the White House because Obama wasn’t even eligble to run. It will be McCain moving into the White House>

“why he refuses to disclose his complete birth certificate to the American people. “

could you please prove you are intelligent, please, but keep it up, that will keep the wingnuts on the outside with no chance of ever being in power.

as for the inauguration, a millionaire, Earl W. Stafford, from our neck of the woods rented an entire hotel and is donating 300 rooms to average people free so they can participate in this historic event. With that kind of enthusiasm do you think the “born in Kenya” haters have any chance at all in effecting the outcome?

really dumb people with nose rings so they can be easily led

this issue is over, you lost!

This is all water under the bridge.It will all be covered up.The SCOTUS will deny these cases with some legal bull sh**.The United states of America has been conned by a black man from no where,with out any paper trails.Senator and president in less then 4 years???? What a con!Thie government of ours just showed it`s vulnerability.WOW,especially after 911. No one will take the blame for this catastrophy,especially the government.It will all be covered up. What a movie this would make!!!!!

08A407 DONOFRIO, LEO C. V. WELLS, NJ SEC. OF STATE
The application for stay addressed to Justice Thomas and
referred to the Court is denied.

To Denise:

FYI: I would not consider myself racist in the least.  I want for all of God’s children to go to Heaven.  I will not, however, vote for a candidate which openly discriminates against a specific set of people.  I believe that every person, regardless of gender, race, or color should be loved.  Do you?  How can you say that people are hiding behind religion, when actually it is Obama who is disregarding the principles God has given to all of us to abide by?  Are religious people to vote for someone like this?

Would you vote for Obama if he was white?  I would not.  His color is not what puts him below another candidate in my list.

How is Obama a discriminator?  He does not view a baby in the womb as important as any other person outside of the womb.  He will sit by while babies are murdered by their mothers, because he says that they do not have the right to live.  If you do not think that this type of discrimination is important, then think about the time of slavery.  They did not have any legal rights against their owners.  Why?  Because they were not thought to be as important as their owners.  An owner could kill his slave, if he deemed it fitting.

And what about women?  In many countries, women are not considered to have the same importance as men.  Some men are allowed to kill their wives, without even a trial.  Also, the female baby is more likely to be killed in the womb than the male baby. 

Now, would you vote for someone who was proposing that slavery was alright or that husbands could kill their wives?  Would you say that it was not as important as the person’s economic policies?  You would not mind slavery as long as the slave owner was provided with a car, house, and a good amount of food every day?

Please!  If you do not stand up for the sanctity of every life, however small, then you are saying that any of these other autrocities are also okay.  Once you say that discrimination is okay, you have opened the door for evil.

I did not vote for Obama, because of his stand against the sanctity of every life.

I told you all. See I know my God. He is faithful!
He never never fails.  Remember that.

The Supreme Court declined to hear the case because it has no jurisdiction in the matter. The Supreme Court only rules on Constitutional related issue’s. There are (2) ways to get this infront of the Supreme Court. (1) The Electoral College denies Barack Obama the Presidency because he doesn’t meet the burden of “ natural born “. (2) A protest is filed with the President of the Senate based on the same.

If and when this ends up infront of the Supreme Court Barack Obama, Jr. will be disqualified. It doesn’t matter where he was born. The fact that his Father was not an American citizen is enough to disqaulify him.

The wording “ natural born “ appears nowhere else in law other then the requirements of office for the Presidency and Vice Presidency. “ Natural born “ means birth between 2 American citizens. It’s intended to protect the Office from foreign influence and takeover.

Any individual in line for the Presidency and Vice Presidency has to be “ natural born “. What’s going on now is legal maneuvering. My guess is that a protest will filed with the President of the Senate. If the Presidency is denied then the issue will go to the Supreme Court and the riots will ensue.

It’s going to take a lot of courage gang. Who wants to be remebered by bringing down the first African American President of the United States. On the other hand if he is allowed to obtain office it’s a horrific blow to not only the Constitution, it leaves the Oval Office unprotected. People are clueless in this country. They don’t see the danger this could potentially cause.

Obama born in Hawaii - BAHM

Obama’s mother American citizen (born in the US too double BAHM! BAHM!

McCain born in Panama - not American soil!

BAHM - not eligible!

For all of you so concern with upholding the Constitution why don’t you look at all the times that BUSH ("the ignoramous") violated it!

THere’s a start!

Be thankful that we finally, finally have a man that can really do the job of a real president!

God bless american and give all those Obam Certificate annal retentive citizens a life!

Hey Denise and all you folks who are invoking God’s will as to why Obama has come this far, please remeber this; God has said that Satan, not himself, is the prince of this world. Also in the Bible is that Satan will be given the power to deceive many. So please put your Bibles away folks, Obama is just a man, and men have lied and cheated to get what they want since time began.

The United States is a republic in which we have rules. Those rules need to be followed. If Obama can not prove he’s a natural born citizen of this country he can not be president. By the Supreme court not hearing this case they are basically saying...we don’t care about the constitution. we’re in charge and what we say goes… I didn’t vote for Obama but if he won, then he won. He needs to prove that he is a natural born citizen.

Lightfoot case Toast
Donofrio case Toast
Wortnowski case Toast

do you “Birthers” need any butter or Jam?

Obama could produce a certified copy of his birth certificate by filling out a form and sending it with a check for $10.00 to the Department of Health in Hawaii. The Certification of Live Birth is not evidence that he was born in Hawaii.

Here is a website for a Hawaiian land program and they have been kind enough to fill out the form needed to obtain a certified copy of what the State of Hawaii is holding sealed. So come on Obama, open up. Read pages 7-11:

http://hawaii.gov/dhhl/applicants/Loaa Ka Aina Hoopulapula.pdf

OBAMA, HALF-SISTER & HAWAII OFFICALS FALSIFY MADELYN DUNHAM DEATH RECORDS!

On October 21, 2008 Barack Obama announced that he would be suspending his campaign after a rally in Indianapolis on Thursday morning, October 23, 2008 to fly to Hawaii to visit with his “gravely ill grandmother.” Barack Obama further stated that Madelyn L. Dunham had recently been hospitalized and was back at home after suffering a broken hip. Obama made it clear on October 22, 2008 that there “will be absolutely no video or photo ops during my upcoming visit with my ailing grandmother,” and “I do not expect my grandmother to make it to election day.”

On Friday October 24, 2008 Michelle Obama during a campaign rally for her husband claimed that “I spoke with tutu last night and she is strong and in good health.”

On Friday October 24, 2008 I placed two calls to the home of Madelyn Dunham, in one of those calls I spoke with Obama half-sister Maya Ng http://larrysinclair-0926.blogspot.com/2008/10/i-just-spoke-with-senator-obamas-sister.html where Maya claimed Mrs. Dunham could not talk.

On November 3, 2008 both the news media and Barack Obama announced that Madelyn L. Dunham had passed away on that date. Mrs. Dunham was to have celebrated her 89th birthday on the Sunday following Barack Obama’s visit, yet no one, not even Barack Obama stopped to wish his “gravely ill” grandmother a Happy Birthday.

After first announcing that Madelyn Dunham had passed away in her sleep on November 3, 2008 (conveniently the day before election day for the sympathy vote) it was reported by Hawaii officials and then by Obama half-sister Maya Ng that Mrs. Dunham had in fact passed away on November 2, 2008. Both reports it turns out are false and it has been reported that Maya Ng and Hawaii officials knowingly and intentionally falsified death records of Madelyn L. Dunham who had actually died prior to Barack Obama arriving on Thursday October 23, 2008 for his claimed visit.

According to sources employed in the coroner’s office Madelyn Dunham died on October 21, 2008 and was cremated on Friday October 24, 2008. It is further claimed that the death records of Madelyn L Dunham were falsified at the direct and specific request of Barack Obama and Maya Ng.

I have forwarded a letter to the Hawaii Attorney Generals office requesting and investigation and forwarded the information received regarding the falsifying of the death and cremation records of Madelyn L Dunham. If this information is factual Barack Obama has demonstrated his total disregard for any life, including the life of the woman who made it possible for him to be a spoiled, drug using, closet bi/gay fraud. Furthermore the fact that Michelle Obama knew and assisted in concealing this fraud along with the US Secret Service assigned to protect Barack Obama makes them conspirators to this crime.

Today Barack Obama participated in the scattering of the ashes of Madelyn L Dunham who he used and exploited.

I have one thing to say Barack, not everyone is willing to cover for your lies and crimes. Now lets see if the Hawaii Attorney General is willing to do their job or if that office is going to simply look the other way.

http://larrysinclair-0926.blogspot.com/

as long as the person’s mother is a US Citizen it doesn’t matter where the person is born they are still considered a natural born citizen.

do you not think the RNC and FBI hadn’t checked this out already?

Get the following fact people:  “OBAMA IS PRESIDENT.” Don’t be morons and believe the right wing idiots. Thanks!!!

The Empire State has become a total wasteland for the Republican Party. This used to be a swing state, with a Republican Upstate balancing out the Democratic city. It tilted heavily Democratic by the 1980’s thanks to Democratic strength in the suburbs, but Republicans could still elect statewide candidates as late as 2002. Now they seemingly have nothing. Senators Charles Schumer and Hillary Rodham Clinton helped lead a Democratic surge upstate, which has led to some frightening beatings. Republicans have even lost their long-term stronghold in the State Senate. This will allow Democrats to dominate redistricting, and with only three House seats left and the state expected to lose two more after the next Census, it’ is possible the Congressional delegation will have no Republicans by 2013.  Short term prospects for the GOP don’t look much better, either. Schumer and Governor David Paterson look safe for 2010. Republicans are talking about competing in a 2010 special election to replace Clinton, but that seems unlikely. Given the size and importance of the state and the complete domination, New York may be the heart of the Democratic Party.  2000: Al Gore (D) 60%, George Bush (R) 35% 2004: John Kerry (D) 58%, Pres. George Bush (R) 40% 2008: Barack Obama (D) 63%, John McCain (R) 36% The only surprise here in 2008 was that Obama did not win by a greater margin.

Well the Framers were comfortable making an exception for themselves. They did, after all, create the Constitution. But they were not comfortable with the possibility of future generations of Presidents being born under the jurisdiction of Foreign Powers, especially Great Britain and its monarchy, who the Framers and Colonists fought so hard in the American Revolution to be free of.  horse racing software

Why now would we need such a bill?  More Americans must wake up before it’s too late.

H.R. 1503
To amend the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 to require the principal campaign committee of a candidate for election to the office of President to include with the committee’s statement of organization a copy of the candidate’s birth certificate, together with such other documentation as may be necessary to establish that the candidate meets the qualifications for eligibility to the Office of President under the Constitution.